Tuesday, March 24, 2009

What's so bad about Halo?

In the beginning, I had mentioned my dis-taste for Halo, but never explained why. Here's the explanation, you'll just have to forgive the rather angry tone. Over time, I'd grown quite angry with Halo for reasons outside of just playing the game.

Yes, I've played all three Halo games. I don't count Halo Wars because it was said there would be no more Halo games after 3, basically summing up Halo Wars as nothing more than what's best described as a Lucasarts scheme. Anyway, all three Halo games were average at best to me. Everything about it just felt like it had been done before except for the new health system that arrived in Halo 2 ... and this is where the rant begins. This health system was so ridiculously easy, all it took was to hide behind a rock for 5 seconds and I'm back to full health in an instant. The weapons were pretty boring, the vehicle sections weren't anything special, the player floated and performed sluggishly and the Master Chief didn't seem like a badass character in the least. The only thing that made him stand out from the rest of the grunts was his shielding suit. He had the personality of a pile of chewed gum and just took orders from a smart mouthed AI construct. So with my own opinion in mind, I set out to find out why the Halo fans liked this game so much. They've only been able to provide me with one single answer: It took no thought or skill to play. Yes, basically, the Halo fans are saying even the kids who held lit M80 fireworks in their hands could still play this game as long as they could still access the "throw grenade" button. Multiplayer is insufferable because thanks to this game reaching out to the idiots, they FLOOD this game and make every effort to damage your faith in humanity severely. Someone messaged me and assumed I was just playing the campaign on easy mode all the time and must play on super hard mode to get a challenge out of the game. That's certainly not a point in it's favor, because any game can be hard when you switch to hard mode. I never play any game on easy mode, ever, no matter what game it is. I always play normal, then hard if it's worth playing through again. A good example of why I think Halo is so patronizingly easy would be that I've seen these "Halo masters" pick up Half-Life 2 for the first time, and they'd get angry and stop playing because their dumb asses died a lot at the hands of common sense.

I wouldn't have minded Halo and it's shitty game mechanics if it were easy to not play and just ignore. Unfortunately, it had to go on to stomp the shit out of the entire shooter genre. Many have said Halo "revolutionized" the genre, but reducing the inventory to a selection of one boring rifle and one boring pistol in most cases seems kind of a step backward from fun and the health system just made it stupidly easy for the player to get through the game as long as they keep hiding for a few seconds. It also gave the game's level designers an excuse not to balance the levels anymore or put breaks in between the action, which ensured anyone could make a shooter now ... and they do. All that health system did was make it so they could throw in endless cannon fodder enemies and the gameplay length will pad itself out with the stupid amount of hiding behind chest high walls you'll be doing.

Inevitably, someone is going to make the point that the above statements are simply an improvement of realism for shooters. First of all, if you want a realistic health system, I'm sure they can make a game where one bullet lands you in the hospital for 2 months real time. Second, fuck realism altogether. The shooter genre used to be a means to escape reality by being an implausibly strong bastard with an array of over-sized guns that shoots lightning, but still challenged you by urging the utilization of your environment, health, equipment and switching to the desired weapon for varying situations. Why the hell are we trying to simulate real life with our video games now anyway? Will these realism nuts trample some more Wal-Mart greeters when the ever amazingly realistic Cubicle Quest hits shelves?

All that in mind, I stand by the statement that Halo has forever ruined shooters. So many companies are on the Halo bandwagon, it made shooters brutally repetitive, artificially padded and simply not exciting due to the health and weapon system's destroying of urgency. Only Valve seems to not have their head up Halo's ass because they didn't let the sales figures of a game that any incompetent player could pick up drive the force of their shooter. They managed mad sales figures and awards without trying to "fit in" and instead, stuck to what made shooters fun, then expanded upon it without replacing it. There was nothing wrong with health meters and multitudes of guns on hand and it was only made more fun when a more clever player utilized the physics engine to his advantage to conserve his health and ammo.

So with all this in mind, Halo can go suck it and I'll continue geeking out over Valve shooters. At least they still understand what a FUN game is.

204 comments:

  1. Amen to that, brother!
    Valve shooters certainly are the best - and you're right. Halo didn't do anything new to the genre, and instead turned it into a steaming pile of crap.

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  2. Ditto to the above guy, I always thought the halo series was a load of crap. They made it unfair for the realistic people. And one of the reasons that really set me off were the little kids thinking they're so kick-ass. They're like "I just owned your ass!", or "Imma Nub Pwner" blah blah. After that I didn't even think the game was worth selling back to Gamestop, after all of the scratches I've "accidentaly" put on it. The only shooters I play on the xbox anymore are Gears, Call of Duty 4, and UT3, which actualy is pretty kick ass, but the campaign missions are a little boring but multiplayer for a Vetran Like me is pretty fun.

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  3. I totally agree with you on that. I mean why can't games feel more realistic instead of dual wielding weapons or regenerating health? Halo 1 was great, then Halo 2 was okay, then Halo 3 was >:(
    I hate Halo 3 because of whining little kids who think the following:

    - HALO3 MACHINIMA EZZ FUNI BCUZ ET HALO3 OLO
    - Obviously as said, griefing when they get killed, or lose their killing spree
    - When they kill someone and they freak out over it

    tl;dr, Halo3 is the most overrated, most griefers, game you'll ever play. I admit I have played Halo3, and games that have that Health system, like CoD4 or WaW, or GoW but it's actually pretty hard.

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  4. Halo is ultimately a overrated mediocre game that caused a wave of shit for the gaming industry and community.

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  5. Halo is overrated, although its popularity isn't because it's easy. The xbox came out in late 2001 when gaming was becoming increasingly popular and the internet was becoming faster, as broadband was also somewhat new. At that time there weren't many console FPS's, the only one that comes to mind was goldeneye. When Halo came out it grew in popularity for being the only good FPS on the xbox. It was also the main game used in MLG gaming tournaments. When Halo 2 came out Halo was already very popular and a lot was expected from it, and the game became what it was because of the multiplayer, which was new to console gamers since it was the only console where you could just search a game and play with others. Halo 3 just drew off the success of Halo 1 and 2.

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  6. Hate me if you want, but I guess it all boils down to what you want in a game. You brought up valid points, instead of screaming "IZ GAIY!", and I respect you for that.

    Now... Where did I put that controller?

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  7. For never has something so true, been said so well.

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  8. Yeh it's completely true. Halo is just a game that noobs play, and with that, VALVe shooters are the only true shooters.

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  9. Halo can get the fuck out! Up with the Valve games!

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  10. Counter strike FTW


    halo fans can go drink some stfu juice

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  11. FINALLY someone understands what a good shooter is and a bad one is.halo is way to overrated.all my friends think halo is the best game ever and i ask them why and their answer was,"because it is."and that was just a stupid answer because at least i can explain why other shooters are better than halo.they like halo just cause others do.

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  12. bout time some brought up a good reason why halo 2 n 3 r crap halo one was good fun but then it got killed and the campaigns were shit easy were as Valve games have character and the half-life series FTW and tf2, CSS kickarse!

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  13. I liked Halo 1, it wasn't that bad of a game, had an interesting appeal to it, but halo 2 didnt change anything in terms of gameplay, just graphics, and the same can be said about halo 3. But in general, while I did find Halo 1 enjoyable, it really was nothing but a cheesy sci-fi rip off from aliens that was really only sub par as far as shooters go. I mean, I can't be the only one that notices the extreme similarities between this game and that movie, the guns are very similar, the pelican is a straight rip off, most of the other vehicles have the same look/feel, the soldiers fall along the same lines as those in the movie, and the game is centered about an alien race that impregnates you and uses your body for sustinance to create a more destructive peak-of-evolution alien being? I smell copy write infringement. And hell, you're definately right about the total lack in personality in master cheif, I mean goddam, Gordan Freeman never says a freaking word and I feel more sympathy/connection with him than that oversized tin bucket

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  14. Well, it's all a matter of opinion.
    Some people like it, some people don't.

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  15. One thing I absolutely HATE about halo fans is they rub it in your face that “as long as I have grenades I’m the best player.” Then I say ok ok fine, let’s play the original Quake series and see how you compare then. Take a wild guess what there replay is… wrong, “that game sucks ass compared to Halo.” Then I promptly challenge them to a contest to a *see who can drink the most green fluid that come out of a car* contest. I suck at that game though.

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  16. well, you obviously havent played halo 3 online... seriously, halo3 isnt innovative and it didnt bring ANYTHING new into the genre, and yes, master chief is really a mediocre and uninteresting character... but DAMN how fun is halo 3 online... single player is kinda OK, not ground breaking, but a decent fun to play, cant match half life of course... But halo 3 is by far the most entertaining online shooter ive ever played. Guess is just me, but the game is damn fun, and i had my best fps multiplayer moments in that game (well, at least just as many as i had in CS:S :D ). And of course no, im not a halo fan boy, and i DO think that valve games are far superior to halo franchise. The reason halo is so popular is because microsoft put a lot of cash into its marketing... and the game isnt bad, its pretty entertaining and gameplay is quite well made.

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  17. oh and before i forget - halo 3 multiplayer is just completely different from cs, cs:s, half life 1,2 or any other valve game. While in valve games seem to require more skills, in halo 3 even when you die, it might be fun :D Theres so many ways to die, lots of randomness, and thats what makes that game so entertaining, while in cs:s or cs the fights between players are very short, fast, usually last about a split second (and dont get me wrong, thats absolutely awesome and gets the adrenaline pumping, but its totally different from halo 3)

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  18. Yeah, Halo 3 RUINED EVERYTHING

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  19. Personaly I like all the halos but 2 due to the fact it was completely generic i dont know somthing about it. the weopons, the health the same basic veihical... it might as well of been a Low quility Add on to halo . I know we can all agree halo 1 was the best but thats becouse of a few reason... #1 Its was New.. it caught attention. #2 The game play was A Mind Blackhole ( as in it just drew u in) #3 everyone seemed to like Humans vs Aleins games then, no matter what.. And i could say One of the reasons People Felt halo 2 suck is because it didnt live up to expectations.... but for a sequal to a game it expectations are always higher then phyicly possable there for everyone always disapointed. but that enough about halo 2 there isnt much to be said but it was bearly a Sequal

    But Halo 3, i enjoyed this game very much and i dont See what people say they hated it... mabe becouse of the expectation factor (btw that why there can NEVER be a sucessful movie.. To much expectation that cant be Delievered)
    but still halo 3 had good Story end the online play was Fine. and they introdused enough veihicals, weopons and equipment that made the game a overall 4/5 and they way they had coop wAs Nice, id say the only down side Was the Health and how u automaticly had full health after being behind a rock.. but if your gonna stick on that down side then your just not smart enough to make a reasonalbe arguement. but other then the health issue the game play was jsut fine and Stop your bitching
    Because it ll leads up to ONE SIMPLE FACTOR
    Ive said this once ill keep on saying it

    If a New game Comes out and it attracts alot of popularity.. and its gonna have squeals

    People ALWAYS have the idea that its gonna be just As good Or better.. And even When it is just as good Or better People STILL dont See it
    Becouse its all about expectations people have that Are just Rediculous And could never come to be. Even if the makes Change one thing to fix a problem you dont like now.. you will always be like.... Well They need to fix this too Or Wtf They Messed it up

    So I dont care What people Have to say I find Halo 1 and 3 Were great games, you CAn call me a dumbass But Serously be for u do Give me A constructed reson that Would make Sence.. if you cant do that well your ether a dumbass that just Agrees with what other peple say and try to talk about it like they know what there talking about... Or mabe Your stuborn and push threw all the fact just to Be right.. when your wrong, Dont get me wrong i mena if you can Give me facts and reason that are understandable or true then sure you might be right.

    Ps. I see you said that master cheif has the Personality of chewing gum... Now yes from a Frist glance Point of Veiw that would seem true. But if you think about it.... people love heros.... and the personaly of a heroc is very complexed at times... Hes just a Silent Leader that Leaves You mind to wonder Who he really is... what he Cares about.. Whats he fight for.... Its questions that captures Peoples Attention and that exacly what Bungle tryed to make

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  20. Its so true Campaign was boring as fuck and with multiplayer... oh my god i swear if i hear another 6 year old kid butcher the english language i will turn gay im sick of those five year olds i mean seriously... the parents getting there kids an M rated game is one thing... but getting them Xbox Live when they KNOW the Xbox Live community is full of foul-mouthed abusive players... they deserve to be slapped across the face and have their heads shoved in a toilet full of shit. the first time i played halo 3 i got in a multiplayer game i got the sniper rifle i try to headshot a guy.. its 3 second bullet lag then a guy from across the map appears next to me then i just die for no reason.. then about 30 seconds later i hear a shotgun blast as if it were right next to me after that i said fuck it i returned it and traded it in for Call of Duty 4 and used the leftover $10 to buy garrysmod... LONG LIVE VALVE!!!!!!!!!

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  21. Off-topic: I couldn't help but notice that you misspelled "ridiculous" TWICE in your rant.

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  22. Yes, I agree! I mean Valve shooters are so much fun, but admittedly, it's annoying when you're online, and you're just getting killed every two seconds because someone could see your hnd poking out slightly.
    CZ is no fun when that happens, but then Halo is just full of Noobs who think they're great becase they can teabag O.o
    I say Valve needs to be get the limelight for once!! And thisis coming from a girl lol, who HATES Halo!!!

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  23. ok i dont care what u think about halo, its ok to me.halo 3 has something unique, a law of physics,wich is when u look at a dark spot and at a bright spot,the bright spot is brighter than usual for a while,also, grafics are pretty good,close to cod 5's graphics.i should know i played them both xlaurax is right about valve games,but every now and then u gotta play a different game than valve all the time.bsides,bungie made and is making:halo,halo2,halo3,halowars,halo3:odst,haloreach,
    oni,and the myth series.but still there are other games out there.but just think,halo wasnt the 1st game to have only 2 gun slots,there was the contra games,those started
    2 gun slot shooters

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  24. I completely agree with you, Bo Schitt. Halo is a crap excuse for a game and Valve games are better in every way. At one time, I thought Halo 3 was cool, but that was before I bought it. The singleplayer was horrendously boring and shitty, and the online multiplayer, although slightly entertaining, was filled with obstreperous noobs constantly teabagging each other. I sold Halo 3 and used the money to buy The Orange Box which surpasses Halo in every way.

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  25. would anyone like me to list all the games valve have made and how successful they all were? ok we'll start with half life: 9 games
    ricochet: 1 game
    team fortress:, 3 games
    cs: 4 games
    portal: 1 game
    L4D: 1 game.
    all together 19 games and most have at least won a few awards

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  26. look halo is a good game so is half-life but both are not perfect no game is and you're bound to see 7 year olds anywhere (just it's been popularized on consoles because of that chocolate milk vid)the 2 weapon thing you complained about its in tf2 and l4d so don't pull that shit.i'll admit halo 2 sucked multiplayer is good, for the story great bullet points.half life is a good game to,(i'm not gonna say any of the games i mention are great because of fanboys)good story good weapons.they both have aliens(don't say hl oesn't it fucking does)they both have zombies,iconic lead characters,the only thing i can think of that halo has that half life doesn't is driveable tanks,ECT.but both have striking similarites the sequels all play like the original. both on pc and console.for me though half-lfe has the better story but halo has the better multiplayer(i can smell the fanboys a mile away)

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  27. you dont see seven year old much on Australian CSS severs cos everyone just tells em' to shut the fuck up they have a winge and leave

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  28. I hate the way Xbox fanboys use the game as a reason to buy an Xbox. But, is that the same as me saying the Orange Box is a reason to buy a PC?

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  29. GHFR(generic halo fan responce): YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY YUR GAY
    Okay I'll say this, yes FPS's are very unoriginal today, also most games feel like they are a simulation today. But you can't blame Halo. Did they want to be copied? probably not... Halo is fun to play because it keeps some realism but your fighting aliens on a giant ring in space. The 2 weapon is to keep from over powering your character in multiplayer. overall Halo is fun but you die way too easy, this makes the community of halo a bunch of douchebags because the game is frustrating, frustration turns into need to be better, need to be better turns people to a competitive mood. And then everyone is at there throats about the games. But rarely I see fights on halo.
    COD4 is a big problem. The game is nothin but seriousness there's no fun just realism. I see fights break out all the time on COD4 because everyone is out just to win.
    Personally I wish Smash Bros. is a game that needs a better server. That game has no realistic features whatsoever, and everyone laughs when something stupid happens and it's just fun.
    So in all I think games should be more fun less realistic so the community is more lively.

    P.S. It's 4:30 in the morning so I hope what I typed made sence cause I'm half asleep and too tired to review it. -_T
    I'm feel asleep...

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  30. DASBOSCHITT YOU FUCKING -A- VALVE Shooters Owns The Halo Players, Even me...I challenge My friend's older brother that accomplished & owns on halo 3, but when I challenged him to play CS:Source, Half-Life 2:Deathmatch, G-Mod, All he said all the time was ''You only beat me here because I lag'' and I just said '' PUFFF Here we go again, all noob players say they always lag when they get owned'' So AMEN 2 that to Das!

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  31. The problem here is that i don't think some of these commenters have actually played halo 3 on anything harder than heroic and no mode but campaign. For the people who say its not realistic enough, who says its trying to be, and when did it start needing to be to be a good game? in half life 2 you play a guy who is as strong,has a suit able to handle MORE damage, and for God's sake people pick up a crowbar once in your lives and just try swinging it like he does. If you say its too easy, then turn it on a higher difficulty or put some skulls on. (for unfamiliar people they make the game harder in various ways) You can say its too easy when you've beaten it on mythic difficulty (Legendary difficulty with all skulls) For the people who say the community has a lot of little kids who teabag too much... darn. you got me. but in Halo"s defense its not hard at all to just mute those people, ignore the teabag and move on with your game. Bo Schitt, you were completely right about The Chief's personality. But honestly, when you are playing multiplayer and you sent some guy packing to hell, do you stop and think, "That was less fun, because my character doesn't have a personality"? No. you don't. Don't worry, only two points left in my argument :) Bo Schitt, you said that the Chiefs only separation from the average marine was his shields, but he can melee a Brute to death, something a marine would FAIL at if he tried. Also, the Chief can jump higher and can hijack vehicles. i don't like the floatey thing when you jump either, but I don't think it really hurts my gameplay and enemy players aren't any harder to hit when they're doing it. NOW FOR THE KICKER: Forge and Custom Games. Something that no other console game with decent gameplay can claim. It lets you do whatever you want with your friends. You don't like the shield recharge? Make it slower or turn it off. Think this weapon sucks? take it away. I'm not going to make a comparison to the GMod because i've never seen it, but forge and cg are the only things of that sort on the CONSOLE.

    P.S. I'm not saying i don't like valve. i've played all of the orange box and left 4 dead, and they were both amazing. Can't we all just accept that Bungie and Valve both make great games, and just get along? Please?

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  32. Also, please reply to the above post. everyone makes a better argument when we address each other's points and not just scream our thoughts at the internet. :)

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  33. Which brings me to Valve.

    Fucking 10 weapons at once. Now that's what I call badassery.

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  34. VALVe FTW
    Halo is just overated :/

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  35. lol i think halo is decent but VALVE p0wnz Halo in gameplay AND multiplayer also you dont see halo built into gmod like the only way is custom models and hammys props but that isnt built in its just a crap load of custom SHIT!

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  36. wow you took the words right out of my mouth it's all true halo sucks really hard. 2 weps on halo 11 on HL 15 on UT3 just goes to show that halo is no match fer anything even classic doom is better

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  37. You will see by my AIM name that I like Halo. You will also assume that I am a fanboy.

    I am not. I am a person who enjoys Halo very much, and I'm not going to argue with DasBoSchitt except on one thing: This is all based off of opinions and/or bias. You will feel certain ways about games. Sometimes you will feel differently, but that does not make you wrong or right.

    You say Master Chief is a character with no personality. I say he's a person who keeps his cards to his chest because he's about business (you would know this if you were into the lore and read the books). Gordon Freeman doesn't talk at all, and I feel pretty much the same way about him: He keeps his cards to his chest and he's about business.

    You also argue that Halo is ruined by fanboys. By reading this, it would seem that Valve and its games have plenty of their share, and therefore, this is not a point with which you harp on a game. If there's one thing that makes me angry, it's fanboys yelling at or blindly promoting a game. Right now, by reading some of what the idiots in this comment thread have posted, I am personally inclined to throw my copy of the Orange Box away. But you can't let fanboys decide whether you like a game or not (I'm not saying you are, DasBoSchitt, but I'm not letting you get away with this argument against the game). By all means, if you don't like how a game plays, don't play it, but . . . I'm rambling, but my point stands. You don't like the game, but I'm going to enjoy a game of Halo 3 and then work on Portal Advanced. Maybe I'll play some Call of Duty 4.

    I'm out. I doubt you'll read this, DasBoSchitt, but I just hope you see Halo in a slightly different light; if not with one of preference, one of respect or tolerance.

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  38. well your arguements state stuff that is wrong with halo 2 whaen the third and first were better. halo 2 actually had one thing going for it that three made better: the armor editor and types of player models. but even then halo 2 sucked balls. and thats not to be taken lightly with a hardcore halo fan like myself. multyplayer was always crap in my opinion because everybody uses lag switches, hacks, betrays their team mates, or quits just because their losing, or play so much its obvious the dont have a life and automatically own u with a frag to the face. same thing with most multiplayer games. the point is halo 1 had a great storyline leaving you wanting more and thats what players fell in love with. along with the fact that it leaves a lot of opportunities for prequils and sequils such as halo 3 ODST and halo reach. halo is a good game, series, and even a good read as a few books, im waiting for a fairly decent movie to come out althogh i wont expect much. but once again halo 2 sucked everyone knows it. it just had a duel weild system which made it desirable. good points on halo: new opportunities. they are coming out with new ideas evry day and are puting a health counter into H3ODST so it will be more like one of my favorite(if not everyones favorite) game half life. halo is also overly dramatic. say you get to the end of H3 and dont wait through the credits like a good fan. youll just think (SPOILERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVENT PLAYED YET YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED) the master cheif is dead however if you wait youll find out he is actually alive in cryosleep and the hidden ending is him crashing on planet onyx. (mentiond in the books) and yes i acknowledge the fact i am a nerd for knowing this. but halo is a great game just like half life. mi know everybody has their preferences but i think its wrong to base a whole series on how bad one of the games was. ive also read some of the other commets and think that those who cant give valid points other than yeah your right or the multiplayer is shit cuz of little kids the same can be said aboiut valve games the only real use for multiplayer is to pass time once the campaign goes out or you feel like starting a pussy clan that "pwns" the others i cant tell you how many times ive heard (or in some cases read) on counter strike "IME AWSUM IME DE BEST THER IS CUZ I JUST KILLED A BADASS DOOD LIKE THIS AND HES IN COLLEDGE IM IN 2ND GRDE!!!!!!" so for the other people i like half life and halo and prefer both but you have to hink before you put comments like halo sucks half life is better. some valid points were made about multiplayer and halo 2 but i dont think theres anything wrong with halo 3 or 1 or even wars for that matter. any arguements on this can made to my XBOX LIVE profiles wulfdude and W0lffe BanE(zero in W0lffe)

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  39. also some of you complain about realism but whats more realistic carying two weapons on your person or carying eleven weapons all at the same time including a rocket launcher shothgun machine gun and crossbow which is totally outdated. think about the bulk of them and count all facts before saying a game like halo isnt realistic

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  40. MAN! All of my friends are like "Dude you suck you don't like Halo? You like Half Life more?" Im glad someone actually agrees with me, and even more people in the comments.

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  41. Quoted from a random comment on youtube( cant remember wich):
    Halo 1: Sux
    Halo 2: Sux + new stuff
    Halo 3: Sux in high definition
    (...)
    Ok, ok, this guy didnt state any arguments, but hes pretty much right, you simpy can't compare halo to a valve game, valve kicks microsoft's ass ONLY in the aspect of FPS gaming, and its no fun to feel indestructible like in halo (hide behind a rock), besides, how can it possibly be fun to hold only 2 weapons!!! i like it more with the space-time compressor bag in where you put a whole arsenal of oversized weapons of mass destruction to rain fire upon your anemies... i will stick to ID Software, valve, and UT, Thanks.

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  42. well the multiplayer is good actuslly, you never really digged into what supposely makes it bad

    i mean, the perfect game would be a game with the half life single player and the halo multiplayer, INSTNT WINN

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  43. I used to play Halo 3 ALOT, when I was bored and had nothing to do. I'm a Colonel Grade 2 in that game, and I agree with every argument made here. Halo just ruined the originality and fun of the FPS genre, especially because of the fan base it attracts (MLG faggots, 6 year olds who don't know when to shut up, griefers, retards, people with an IQ under 60...etc..)VALVe shooters do have originality and fun, and yes I do feel more of a connection to old Gordon here, rather than a guy in a 7 foot tall suit who is "nigh invincible" becaue he has a shield. I'll stick to id Software, VALVe, Infinity Ward....yeah...

    TL;DR: Halo is overrated and its fanbase killed it further than a 6 year old could murder you ears with his butchery of the English language.

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  44. Yea, I do agree with you man. But I still play halo 3 just to kick back and chill. Im not saying its better then Valve games because I know its not. Its just a game to chill back and play with a few friends. But it is over flowing with whiney little 12 year olds who think there badass because there dicks are 3 in. Also, No I am not being harsh on the kids of XBL but I yet to find a kid on XBL who is not a little asshole/screamer/loser/asshole again/etc... And those who have actually been on xbl would agree with me there. But I think the halo story is shit, the only good one was Halo 1. That is the only one with a decent story.

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  45. I see were you are coming from. I admit I was a Halo fan mostly because i was running out of games i could play with friends. But now I am a fan of Valve game. The main thing that pissed me off with Halo was that after just a month or so almost everyone you play against would know almost all the cheap weapon combos and so on. Even though there are a lot of people who hate the game there are still a lot of gamers who enjoy it so there must be a few reason people keep going back for more.

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  46. the online of half-life (1&2) is absolute fun css online is fun as hell along with tf2 and so many other valve games so what if you have more than two weapons in half-life and how is a SMG, rocket launcher and shotgun outdated i mean HALO has them? but a crowbar is awesome instead of some sniper rifle

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  47. Agree on what your saying...Halo is overhyped...but ODST looks better but still....Halo has nothing on Halflife

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  48. same here i liked halo at first but the forge in halo 3 gets sader and sader the campiangs just the same they say it has unlimited posibuilitys this is rubish same objects same vehicles even on newer maps yes i bought them and i regret doing so its so lame even far cry 2 has the health regeneration thing but halo 3 odst looks like the game that might turn things around

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  49. srry for continueing coment but how do you get garrys mod do u need half life to get it cos it looks awsome

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  50. Ok, Wtf Is Wrong With You People... This Is The First Time I've Ever Seen So Much "Bitching" And "Trying To Be A Smartass" Comments About Halo..

    So Just Because.
    1- This Is A Open Comments Box
    2- And Has Everything To Do With Valve Games
    3- They Have Good Games

    Doesnt Make You Have The Right, Or The Mouthing To Talk Shit About Halo In Any Matter..

    So To Whoever That Reads This And Actualy Has Or Will Bitch @ Halo


    JUST STFU AND KEEP YOUR FUKKEN OPINION FOR YOURSELF BITCH!!!
    WE DONT CARE, THEY MAKE MONEY...WE DONT... SO STFU

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    1. I believe you spelt 'fucking' incorrectly. Also, a lot of these people have some constructive things to say, so, to quote you... "STFU"

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  51. Okay, I love playing the Halo games but I really enjoy VALVEs games too, but when I go online there are always noobs on both. I'm not saying i hate one or the other but its a common fact that on every online game you WILL find a group of people who aim to make everyone else miserable. BOTH games are at the top and they deserve it for varied gameplay.

    Complaining about weapon combos in a tactical game makes you a noob, dissing a game for not realising what the MUTE option does on someones gamertag makes you a noob, complaining about the amount of weapons you can carry makes you a noob. I could go on with this. Guys you have to understand that no 2 games are the same. Every game plays differently, bitching about this makes you a newbie to gaming altogether.

    As far as gaming goes, every game is good in its own way, but also has flaws in its own way. If this upsets you, sell your games console and forget about touching a game for the remainder of your life.

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  52. I personally enjoyed all the Halo games, Although I agree with 79% of the things you have bought up, the only real problem i have is the Players and shotgun, the amount of times i have had my game ruined by a shotgun or overskilled sniper escapes me. Different people like Different games.

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  53. amen i first bought halo 3 i thought it would be good turned out to easy even on hard and compared to resistance fall of man when you fight big aliens at the start, not umpa lumpas running away!!! I'm not a fanboy or some halo hater I'm just expressing my opinion

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  54. it all really depends on what game you play first.
    If you like it, you like the company who made it, and no one likes it when your favourite game is bashed by others through comparisons to better/worse games.
    ugh, I put to many 'likes' XD

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  55. *Sigh* You forget yourself. Games aren't made (or at least published) to be good. They're made to make money. It's an industry not a charity. If Halo clones sell they'll make them. (On a personal note I hate you because you've been advertising on the forums I like, and puttingbiased opinions that stir up drama and controversy. In short, "ATTENTION WHORE!"

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  56. All right, just want finally finish my fight on Halo games by giving my opinion on first person shooters and Valve games for all those n00bs who play Valve games. I like first person shooters because it puts you in the perspective of the character. Plus. I also like how in the Call of Duty and Halo series you have an arsonal of weapons, more add-ons when you go on Xbox Live, and you can chat with other players, but I usually don't think chatting is necessary. Now let me get to angering issues on those n00bs who do not have a clue on good graphics and multi-player fun. Valve games are meant for people who suck at games and can't frag anybody to save their own life and also don't really play games in general. It seems that one of my favorite YouTube directors, DasBoSchitt hasn't a clue on good games. He just makes movies and doesn't know GRAPHICS!!!! He rants that "It takes no thought or skill to play." YOU HAVE NO FRICKING IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO KILL SOMEONE ON HALO 3, YOU DOPE!!!!! IT IS FRICKING RIDICULOUS!!! It takes amounts of skill to kill an average player who knows their weapons right! Plus, you have n00bs grabbing power weapons to just to try and kill you at the same time you're fighting an actual GOOD player. That;s just to clue you in on how first person shooters work. It takes amounts of skill to play. You Valve lovers need to understand that just playing Left 4 Dead maybe fun, but most people are playing Call of Duty 4 & 5 or Halo. There. I'm done.

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  57. Halo is fun and i think Valve rocks but why Did you just HAVE to bomb halo? i think you can learn from halo then move on the valve.

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  59. halo sucks my little brother said it whas awesome etc etc and i played it and i whas off that ship i whas like fake crash wtf aliens sound like kids that are getting raped ok iam going to play half-life *deleting gay lord game: halo* *done* *half-life* some ppl are going totaly crazy when they hear: halo and iam in my head like: gay AKA FUCKING DIE WHOLE HALO SERIE DONT RAPE THE GAMING UNIVERSE! :P

    btw my name here is kinda raped

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  60. i do like halo but it is very overrated and mediocer, the only good thing about it is the multiplayer,and evean thats kinda retarded due to 'n00bs' and 'squeakers', they just make it up on the spot

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  61. Really, I think both companies are great (Bungie and Valve.). I agree that Halo 2 sucked, but there really isn't anything wrong with Halo 1 and Halo 3. As for valve games, they're all great, in their own way. I'm not really into CP games, but I have to admit that Valve does a AWESOME job at creating games. Most of the Halo community are retarded noobs with no life, while Valve games consist of more "advanced" (normal. :P ) players. I, for one, like Halo, L4D, CS:S, Half-Life, e.t.c. I really don't know why fans of either company fight so much.

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  62. "Good thing I'm indestructable." -Francis, L4D.


    "Good thing I'm actually indestructable." -Master Chief, Halo Series.

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  63. Look, halo is an alright game. And I'm getting sick and fucking tired of people who say they like something and then turn around and say they hate it cause a cool person says they hate it. It's pissing me off cause nearly 3/4 of people who use the internet are spineless wimps who always changes they're opinions in a failed attempt to win a people like Bo Schitt's interest when he couldn't give a damn if you were on his side or not. Seriously people... grow some balls and stand up in what you believe in and don't change cause of one person. And I also bet alot of the people who say they hate halo cause Bo Schitt said he did love playing it. Anyways if any of you got a problem with it, my email is ohnoesaz0mb13@gmail.com Later

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  64. Try this free online game that is fun and fair.
    Combat Arms
    Look it up online. They add new stuff every month or so.
    It's realistic, It has noobs (all the more ownable) and some pros for real challenge.
    You all might like it.
    But like most online games, there are hacks and buyable stuff.

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  65. Did I mention the many game modes like elimination (team alpha vs. team bravo),
    capture the flag (same as elimination),
    one man army (free for all)
    search and destroy (survive or plant/defuse a bomb)
    fireteam (new, up to 8 people complete 4 missions)
    overdose (newest, 2 infected players infect humans while humans try to survive)
    there might be more but I forget. Don't forget you can hold primary weapon, secondary weapon, grenade (ugh noobs) and knife (pro and hackers).
    You'll just have to try it out.

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  66. Halo is fun, but I will admit, 2 and 3 destroyed it. Valve games do bring out the best, and I swear, if I hear one more time "HAHA!! ROCKET PWNED NOOB!!" I'm gonna hit the roof.

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  67. Ok seriously you people are overexaggerating the greatness of valve games. The only true purpose I would ever use the Valve games for is to make machinima and that's it. It's cheaper and has better motions for the characters. Other than that, anyone I ask what their favorite game is right then is either Call of Duty 4 or 5. They're pretty awesome games. You overexaggerate Counter Strike. Nobody cool plays that game for online play or LAN parties. You just can't face the fact that you suck at Halo and Call of Duty. Jeez! >:(

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  68. AWWWWW yes you read my mind i always hated when people would say "you want a game that takes skill, play halo." but you know what i think is even crappier than halo? gears of war... and theres just too many things to complain about with that one...

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  69. Look at this fan boy fest!

    All of you are acting STUPID! Who cares if " VALVe games are LIKE ZEH BESTTT HARHAR * cumshot * " So what if Halo takes no skill, SO WHAT if you could hold 11 damned weapons in HL2. Here's a questions. WHO CARES?

    The people that are defending Halo AND VALVe games, and have good points, thank you. ( Not you, Rocker in Training. )

    I HATE how most of the gaming community, who think they are smart, hate Halo because it's " overrated ". That proves they have a IQ under 50. But it's funny how a lot of the haters say " Gameplay matters, nothing else. " but you say that. You want to know something?

    ALL FPS games are the same, just run and shoot. HL2 has basic puzzles, yes, but you CAN still run around, shooting Combine, antilons, zombies and headcrabs. CS:S isn't very different either. Just, duck, shoot and repeat. CS:S,CS,CS:CZ,TF2,TF1,HL2,HL2:EP1,HL2:EP2,HL1,HL1 OF, HL1 BS, Deathmatch, HL2 Deathmatch, Dod:S, DOD, Halo 1,2,3, UT, Doom, CoD make you do that. Same thing. Just a different idea. But the same. No difference. So stop treating VALVe like it's your god.

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  70. Ima agree with the mayne above also there lots uv comments hhahahaha

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  71. These things are based on opinion, to me,
    Halo is overrated, but that's an opinion.
    Those who shout HEY YOUR A NOOB FOR PLAYING HALO
    GAY GAY GAY GAY

    Or VALVE GAMES ARE ONLY FOR nOobs

    STFU and don't call the other side noobs for gods sake or I'll kill myself.

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  72. the ass-kissing on this page is insane, but to what i was going to say

    Yea, Halo may be very easy, but that didnt stop it from exploding the FPS genre into what it is, now did it? Valve shooters are awesome,but face it, they get nowhere near as much recognition as Halo and the others because they require a train of thought and an amount of skill to play. Simply said, the average person hates that. And besides, you cant say you have NEVER enjoyed a second of the single player, but i agree with what you say about multiplayer

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  73. Listen, I'm gonna say this just to get it out in the air. I used to play halo 3 all the time, have played halo, and don't own halo 2, but have played it plenty of of times. After awhile though, it got boring and pissed me off when people say "you suk dud3" & "I ju5t pwned u" & "shut up and quit complaining (insert name here). u're just a little bitch" (I don't even speak in these instances) in nasaly high-pitched voices (no offense intended to those who have reached and passed puberty). Once I discovered steam, I gave up on halo and its not-so-steamy teabagging.

    You all have your own opinion, and have my deepest respect for that (look at fanboys surrounding me), but I love the valve games. They have amazing plot (aside from L4D and multiplayer only games), the gameplay is always a force to be reckoned with, and they all have a new qualities to look forward to. Now don't get me wrong, Halo is still a solid game, it's just got too much publicity, and the squeaky voices really annoy me.

    Valve games have their problems too though. The rationality and difficulty of these games (like the irrationality and POSSIBLE ease of the halo games) causes problems between players, EXTREMELY heated arguments (trust me, you do not want to interrupt these guys) and, THE HAX!!!!! I will never understand why people will resort to risking their gaming privleges with steam online simply to win at a videogame(kids, I understand to a degree due to their competetive nature, but adults, i never could understand why).

    All in all, I mean no insult to players of halo, valve, and yes, even hackers, but all these games are fun (to a degree). If you enjoy easy fun (and bragging), halo is for you. If you enjoy the could-be adrenaline rush of split second action, death, and more difficulty, you might enjoy valve games a bit more. Plus if your really creative, you would love Garry's Mod way more than forge in Halo 3. Us and games is like us and sex (or yiffing as you furries may call it), in that they (or we) would have been long gone if they (or it) weren't so damn fun.

    P.S. Dasboschitt, your videos are great and I hope to see more in the future. Keep up the good work, and have good vacations while your at it!!

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  74. For the love of god! When will halo get out of style?! I'm sick and tired of the Master Queef fanboys. Gordon Freeman could totally kick master queef's ass. I guess halo sucks because made by microsoft.

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  75. You realise that most of you are actually becoming similar to what you hate. Though instead of halo fanboys, you are Valve fanboys. Now, I like halo (i played all of them) and i like half life (I have finished them al except HLS). Halo has a much better multiplayer than HLDM, because the HL gameplay isnt suited to multiplayer battles very well. However, HL has a much better narrative and single player, and is more fun to play over a longer period of time. The halo campaign is only really good if your online with a mte on legendary with skulls on. And after playing ODST firefight this weekend I can say ive never had more fun on multiplayer, but L4D survival would be almost overtaking it if it didnt lag the shit out of my computer.
    So to sum up
    Half life : For people who like single player and strong narratives
    Halo : For people who like multiplayer and mucking around.

    P.S I have to say that ive only found a noobish 7-year old in ONE halo match ive ever played. Ive played several hundred matches. (OK maybe a bit exxagurated)

    PPS Berretaboy357 - Im guessing that youre probably playing HL on a PC, since macs are pretty rubbish for gaming, so your 'microsoft sucks' argument is a bit hollow

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  76. Oh and 1 more thing, If you are getting annoyed. You see how theres a little button on the headset, that says 'mute'? try moving it. youll find theyre voices magically disappear

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  77. -OK last comment. this thing neeeds a messae editor-

    A message to those who say halo is easy. I challenge you to attempt it on the communities new 'mythic' difficulty. The one where you set it to legendary, turn on every skull and have to start again from the beginning if you die.

    And i have an argument against half life that i meant to point out. Half life 2 is so much easier once youve completed it, mainly because the challenges are all gone. Case in point:
    Water Hazard medium : 1st playthrough
    1:46:00
    Water hazard hard : 2nd playthrough
    27:00
    Replay value : next to zero

    And youre not convincing people that the valve community is good when youre all going 'Hal0 if for n00Bz and 1337 assholes bungie suk dik valve FTW'

    And machinima - another argument for valve - doesnt have to bo high tech to be good. Look at RoosterTeeth and there Red vs Blue series. Without them the machinima craze wouldnt have taken off. It may not be Extremely awesomely perfect, but its funny and is the father of machinima

    And im only writing all this cos my friend linked me this page through steam and im bored out of my mind.

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  78. Before I say anything I just want to mention I'm not trying to start a Flame War or anything, I'm just stating my opinion.

    Meh, I liked the first Halo. It was fun and interesting. I liked the Single-Player campaign in Halo 2, but I never really played multiplayer because all the maps suck IMO.

    Halo 3 had pretty good graphics but honestly I could care less about that. The campaign was short and dull. And then there's multiplayer. HOLY SHIT. I haven't seen such a horrible online community of hackers and dickheads since 4chan. Not to mention the fact that lag makes it impossible to hit people half the time, and the weapons make no damn sense. You have a pistol that's as accurate as a Sniper Rifle? And it's the future but we somehow have Assault Rifles that are weaker and less accurate than the ones we have today. Pssh, yeah, REALISM. And then there's teabagging. Oh boy, that really pisses me off. I can't tell you how many times someone's gotten a cheap grenade kill on me and then started teabagging me like he's the best FPS player ever.

    That's why I like TF2. It trades graphics and realism for BALANCE and FUN. I've heard so many people on servers complain about TF2 not having grenades. These are the same people who have 10 points and are at the bottom of the scoreboard. They don't get any kills because they don't have their luck-shot, cheap ass grenades. You know why TF2 took around TEN years to be made? Because they spent time and effort working out all the bugs and kinks, fixing things that make the game unfair and unbalanced.

    And no, I'm not a Valve fanboy, I just used Team Fortress 2 as an example. I suppose I could use UT3 as an example but for the most part I don't play many online games.



    ...And to the pyrom4niac, sure 'Mythic' isn't easy, it isn't designed to be easy, smartass. That's the point. That's like if someone said Half Life 2 was easy and you told them to play without their HUD, nothing but a crowbar, and all enemies one-hit-kill you. Of course it's going to be hard.







    TL;DR Halo sucks and trades realism/flashy graphics for FUN. Team Fortress 2 might not have the best graphics and it sure as hell isn't realistic, but it's extremely fun. And it doesn't even have singleplayer.

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  79. 1) you must have a terrible live connection, I get no lag on halo unless it's a certain guy on my friends who I never get a good connection with.
    2)Im not calling you a fanboy, I'm just saying that some people here are being hypocritical by slagging 7 year old halo players while using 1337 talk
    3)bad community? Have you ever seen so many haters in your life? These people probably spend more time slagging non-valve games than they do playing valves games. And there are worse console communities, like GoW and let's not forget the goddamn Sony fanboys who fortunately won't get to play L4D2
    4)maybe some people like 'fun'. I don't play halo for the single player, except to unlock stuff for MP.I play half life for that,and I extremely enjoy both games

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  80. And get the point that HALO ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE REALISTIC! the 2 wepon system is so that in multiplayer one person doesn't have a ton of powerful weapons

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  82. I have to say that the HL2 campaign has flaws as well, such as the airboat and jeep segments which are just drive for ages, encounter 2 enemys, more driving etc. I agree with about 57% of the comments on halos campaign, but ODST's is pretty hard on heroic now that they brought back health
    I'm gonna stop triple posting from now on :]

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  83. Halo is kind of like cod4. It's a really noob friendly game, which I don't mind since being easy to pick up and play means you don't have to pay much attention to what you're doing if you're just having a quick 4 player sesh on a 360/PS3.

    But all the people that think they're 'gamers' because they only play either of those games, yet know nothing about any other game, genre or developer? They can go die in a hole.

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  84. I love most shooters like Halo, Cod, HL, yadda yadda yadda. They all have their ups and downs. Halo 3 had a decentish, but ridiculously short campaign. But then again, its only short on Easy or Normal. All Halo haters here probably find Easy to maybe Heroic too easy, while Legendary and Mythic are suddenly too hard. THe story of Halo, however, is pretty good, not just a simple, "kill the aliens and you're done." Bungie knew how to properly twist a seemingly straightforward story in my opinion. But enough about the campaign. The Halo 3 multiplayer was comparitivley kickass in my opinion. And custom games and forge allowed so much customization. Not to mention theater mode, the mode that allows easy machinima-making.
    And about the two weapons thing....just try, just TRY to carry 11 different government weapons at the same time, or even just 3 or 4 rifles without holding all them under your armpit. Not so easy, is it?
    I like Halo, but dont get the wrong idea of me. i also love Ifinity Ward and Valve games, and some Nintendo too. Im no fanboy for any particular game. Fanboys are just blind haters of other games, usually simply because the other games rival in popularity to their favorite game.

    No game is perfect. Nothing is.

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  85. BTW who said that grenades in halo are good?
    Frags are absolutely shit, plasma and spike are only really good against vehicles, and firebombs just suck, period.
    Though grenades in HL are good only for taking out snipers. No game has perfected grenades.

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  86. Jesus Christ.. ill just tell u wat to play. halo.
    Go suck it Valve fanboys

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  87. BTW VALVE IS OVERATED AND STUPID.
    HALO FTW LOLOLOLOLOL

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  88. And anyone complaning about hating halo is a lonely WOW player using the internet for the first time. LOSERS

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  89. Valve Shooters are great! Like Left 4 Dead, Counter Strike, The Half Life series, well, im not sure if Garrys Mod's really considered a "shooter" game since its mostly a "physics sandbox", plus the upcomming Left 4 Dead 2 has me really stoked! But it seemes to me that Bungie may have been a "tad" too lazy about the final installment of Halo trilogy. I mean, come on! The game only has 10 fucking missions! Plus some missions are very dull and boring! Dare i say this, but, the game takes no skill whatsoever, period, I could play upside down if I wanted to! Also, the guns weren't really thought out since it was purely "hipfire" aiming for weapons that aren't scope enabled, so that sucks. Grenades? Dont even get me started..... So, yeah, Halo basically took a shit on the shooter genre.


    So, Halo 3 isn't #1 on my top list of games, far from it. Another great shooter developer is Infinity Ward, hence, the Call of Duty series, they really took their time in developing the game, like adding realistic weapons, perfectly tuning the weapons so they wouldn't be "unfair" in this game, so it "actually" takes skill for the player, they could jump out with a pistol and kill the target when he has a fully automatic. They also made sure you can hold, or "cook" the grenade so it would explode in less time when thrown so they really don't have to spam the fucking grenade across the the map in hopes of killing someone.

    With that said, I finally conclude the Bungie could have done a better job on Halo 3, if they weren't working on the fucking Diorama which is completley pointless!!


    -Peace Das Bo Schitt.

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  90. well the reason why bungie let you have two wepons was to make you pick a combo that worked, and to use them to your advantedge. otherwise if they gave you lots of them the game wouldnt even be a game. just a 7 ft guy with 10 wepons in a huge car.... oh wait that is halo

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  91. Honestly? I love halo, not for the game play, but because im a sci fi buff XD. And honestly if it were up to me halo should be a movie series where it belongs, its not a video game and shouldn't be a series, the only good part is that it has spawned some awesome machinima (Red Vs Blue, Dues Ex Machina, and some others.) But i do have to disagree with the whole "killed the series" honestly its up to the companies to make their choice, look at Valve they CHOOSE not to follow bungie, its not like bungie forced everyone to follow their model, so dont blame them for that.

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  92. I really enjoyed halo. All of them. I know valve makes kick ass games. I haven't played that many, but they're fucking amazing games. Personally I think halo as one of the best games ever. The health system is kinda cheap in halo 2 and 3 but in odst and 1 you had to get health just like every other game. I enjoy halo for the action, story and the characters. It has a movie quality, an epic war fought all over the galaxy. The characters are awesome and amster chief is a badass for a couple reasons. Hehardly ever talks except to say someting epic, he destroys aliens no problem, and you never see his face which adds to the mystery of who is Spartan 117. The online in halo 3 is the best. sure there are some fucking annoying noobs who just scream and swear but theres always the mute button. Everything in halo worked for me. Its my opinion but I'd choose halo over any vavle game anyday.

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  93. Oh yeah and who the fuck says halo is easy. try legendary and see how easy it is now. Better yet legendary with every skull enabled. try playing that upside down.

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  94. While i do prefer valve shooters, i still enjoy halo very much.

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  95. Halo games are great for their fast-paced action and balls-to-the-wall epic moments. there may not be much strategy, but it's a game, and it's not a squad based fps, so what do you expect? If you want strategy and realism, try playing Battlefield 2. Strategy and Non-realism? TF2. No strategy, but realism? Umm... Laser Tag in a two room building?

    Valve/Steam games are great for the scripted scenes, and for having a huge level of either humour or emotion. Or both. Or, Zombies. Valve may have excelled in videogames, but it's because they've touched all the bases. I think I'm in a good position: I like all shooter/action games.

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  96. If you think Gordan Freeman was soo badass its because you went throught the whole story. You obvisouly didnt take to time to take in The whole story surrounding master chief like he is humanity's last hope

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  97. Im with the guy above, Halo is an awesome shooter. You have just haven't seen it for waht it is. The community behind it is freaking huge, its forge allows players to build maps easily (unlike the Source engine) and its multiplayer is what makes the game so huge. And the fact that Halo seems to be a rip off of Alien also can be said about Half-Life (Headcrab-headcrab zombie-alien) Halo isnt meant to be realistic is a futureistic game. Sure the recovery system seems cheap, but you forget the fact Master Chief is badass and his suit has biofoam in it (which heals him) and when your facing foes on Heroic you need those shields. The two weapon arsenal adds to the need of a strategy, unlike half life where you can have an insane amount of guns and it all seems pretty easy. Yes alot of kids play this game, and it has piss easy gameplay, but when you accuatly play the game with decent player you find out pretty quick that the grenade button isn't what you need to be good. You obsiously are HEAVILY biased towards VALVe games. I previously whould have agreed with what you said, but when i accutually played Halo for what it was and gave it a chance it became one of my favorites. Before that Valve games were my favorites. Truth be told i do think Valve games are good and they have an element that halo doesn't but then again halo does too. So i propose you this: Stop being so fucking biased and play the game for what it is or you can lick my hairy ballsack.

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  98. is not overrated, there's just people that like it and people that don't like it, and yes before you ask, i like halo far better than half life 2 (hl2 still rocks!)

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  99. Haha, talk about Fanboy baiting! I would only willingly play a Halo game if a friend begged me... With gold... From Mars...

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  101. You've stumbled upon the greatest flame war in history

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  102. you have lost one fan asshole....

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  103. Wait up!
    Well... You said a lot fo truths but it's easy if you play it on easy or normal modes...
    Now play in Legendary to see if the recovering shied of Halo 2/3 is that easy... And just to finish my comment here... Halo3: ODST FTW! o/

    :D

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  104. well if i play halo 3 i at least know that i wont have to go thtough a puzle every 5 feet but when i play hk2 i at least now that i wont be shot every 5 feet. Point is they are equal and even

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  105. K, Halo games are good, Valve games are good. now stfu

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  106. Halo is one of my favourite games... so are Valve games, especially Half-Life, but you got a point with some things, but then people like different things i guess, people shouldn't get offened... unless BoSchitt started trolling saying 'fukin n00bz on teh hal0 valve is fro teh proz lololololololololololololololol'. Just ignore it, BoSchitt is great director people, don't get worked up, it's just his opinion.

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  107. I totally agree about the overblown attention thing. I mean, if people want a good first person shooter, they should play half-life!

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  108. Tell me you've seen that picture on google with Dr. Freeman over there ripping halo's freakishly large head off. epic.V-A-L-Ve!

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  110. Halo series for noobs
    Valve games ftw
    oh and has anybody noticed that one of halo's developer companies are gearbox? look back and the hl1 expansions was mainly made by gearbox so halo may be rip-off of half-life?

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  111. Halo 1 was Great!
    Halo 2 was okay...
    Halo 3 SUCKED BIG BLACK MONKEY BALLS WITH A STORYLINE SO RETARDED, IT COULD MAKE ANYONE LOSE 20 IQ POINTS PLAYING IT!

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  112. Reach. That is all.
    Okay, fine, I'll keep going. Reach looks like Halo 3 times OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!1!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!

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  113. And if you are, for some strange reason, don't know what reach is, its the next Halo game :P
    Huh? Oh, um, yeah! You better run you anti-Halo fanboy!!!!
    NOTE: I am not a Halo Fanboy. I love whatever I find I can have fun in. Halo, CoD, L4D, HL, CS, Unreal, etc............ a lot

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  114. I acually like Halo 3. BUT i like other games to like Call of Duty-- epic! And No! I am not a "Halo fanboy". You have some really good thought out things about halo and I agree to a point. Me, I like most Shooter games for no reason---- What!?
    Also you have made some of the funiest videos ever plus, i hope you do find the time to make more videos! Great series!

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  115. Also to add on to my last comment im sure your thinking i hate Valve games. The answer is no. Valve is awesome! I cant wait for more games(Hopefully like L4D)from them!

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  116. Huh. Not sure if you posted that in an effort to see how much of your fanbase you could get to give you a bandwagon wank or not, but Jesus, why's ripping on Halo seem to be the latest craze? Nearly *everyone* were going nuts for it when it came out, churned out a sequel, and then put out its third installment, but now apparently liking the game is qualification for getting mocked as a barely-literate child.

    I offer this as my rebuttal: fuck you. I love Valve games, I play CoD, and I had damn good fun with the Halo series. I didn't buy ODST, so I've yet to play the Reach beta, but it looks great, and I've heard great things about it.

    Maybe I'd rather not sit by idly as your fans, hell, and *you* spew out 'halo iz fur noobz' and sip wine like some bizarre sort of Half-Life elitist, as if *your* brand of fun is somehow more sophisticated than everyone else's.

    Let me propose an alternative to the countless theories I've seen on this page regarding being killed by players with 'no skill' and that games like HL actually *do* require skill. Besides the fact that you're comparing a multiplayer game to a single player game, did it ever occur to you that you just suck? It's quite simple, really, especially since you rarely ever hear the voices of the people on the other team, so you're seldom actually able to pin the label of '12 year old boy' on them.

    You want to compare "real" shooters like Half Life to Halo? Fine, go on ahead. Then you can get back to saying why the US Marine Corp "sucks" compared to a military that spends all its time in training exercises. After all, members of the USMC who are immensely skilled at their duty get killed by third-world illiterates with AK-47s, therefore the USMC is for noobz, and a fictional paramilitary that does nothing but train against target dummies is for the *real* soldiers.

    You're pathetic, damn near the lot of you. You can enjoy your circle-jerk of gaming elitism all day long, but it won't change the fact that you're going to occasionally find games are different than what you're used to. Oh, what's that? Someone with a Battle Rifle killed you because you only had an SMG and a shotgun? Oh, boo-hoo. If only you'd had an armory shoved up your hazmat suited arse, you'd show them how great you are.

    But instead, you just retreat to your little corner of the gaming world, driving nails into your skull until you actually convince yourself that if anyone can kill you in Halo, it's a product of the game's immense inferiority to an almost exclusively single-player franchise. And not because YOU. JUST. SUCK.

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  117. Half-Life FTW, bitch. Even so, there are some games where reality is what makes them good, like Penumbra. Aside from that, an ungodly amount of weapons is awesome. Modern Warfare is a game I'd like some critizism on, though.

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  118. 1st thing id like to say is, thts not my email adress anymore (the ryan_kaylie_jones thing) it was made for me and my sister and i delelted it, dont no how its still thr tho...
    anyway,ok, i think i'm the only 1 tht wont h8 on halo (do u rlly think i will read everything up there?)
    i'll admit it, i play halo, and im waiting for halo reach to come out, and i accept tht the shield system in halo is kind of....well, ridiculous, but that doesnt make it a worse game, and if you've noticed in reach, they are going back to the halo 1 style because it got more sales that way.
    i'm not completly biased on halo though, it could fine tune alot of the parts(the shielding, and they fixed it in reach...for the most part anyway) and redo the harder difficulties to, (by that i mean, make the ally ai's weaker, they are harder to kill then a guy in hundreds of pounds of armor, srsly??)
    now, i agree that valves games (l4d ftw) are better in some cases...ok, most cases, but still, try reach out, you might actually change your mind

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  119. Well, you make some good points, but Halo is a great game i love it so much, it doesn't go to how realistic it is. It's the fun you have playing it! i don't see much more realisticness in VALVe shooter, c'mon TF2? You have a static scope and shooting someone in the foot kills them not to mention you can run right into someone shoot and you actually hit with accuracy. The only realistic games are the Battlefields, and Sniper Elite and Sniper:Ghost warrior. Shut up about realisticness

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  120. Halo destroyed all the shooter games

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  121. dylan you like realistics games and its ok everyone has its own opinions but is it realistic that if you get shot,you get cover and then you can get shot another 10 times?i think not.

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  122. If you've played Marathon, you'd know it's not Bungie's fault, it's Microsoft's fault. If you look at the early version of Halo, it was going to be a third person shooter for the mac with like 40 different guns, but microsoft bought halo out and ruined halo. Halo one is the only good Halo, all the other were rushed by Mirosoft so they could get more moneyz. They rushed Halo 1 to promote xbox, they rushed Halo 2 so they could promote Xbox Live, and i don't think they rushed Halo 3, but I bet Bungie just made Halo 3 just to get the trilogy over with. I think Bungie is making Halo: Reach, so they can make Halo the way they wanted to, or at least similar to waht they wanted (it's was also probably requested by Microsoft so they can more money, as if they're not rich enough.)

    Don't blame Bungie.
    BLAME MICROSOFT! (those damn greedy bastards)

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  123. Wow. What a nifty circle jerk we have here. I'd say I disagree with this, but I'd be disingenuous because I've played The Orange Box on the 360, and, from what I gather, VALVe actually supports it on PC. I bought The Orange ox, used, for pretty cheap, and sold it back as well without finishing up Halo Life 2. The controls were dated and it didn't keep my attention. Portal was really good, but I didn't fall in love with it the way some people clearly did.

    I suppose I'm the Halo fanboy, because I've thought they've got better and better. Then again, I don't play the single player modes. I primarily play multiplayer, which, to me, is where the real game is.

    I have a few more preorders for games that are coming out (blew through Alan Wake [extremely underwhelming] and Red Dead Redemption [rather good]) to get maximum resale value for them because when Halo: Reach comes out, I know that's pretty much ll that's going to reside in my 360.

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  124. Halo's multiplayer is pretty balanced,you don't know a thing bout bad campers unless you've played call of duty...learn to actually play it for more than few days to judge it you incoherent asshole.(Valve stuff is pretty good, but is it worth it to attack it for no goddamn reason?)

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  125. Halo 1 was great, because your health wouldn't only rely on the armor, and it took longer to recharge. It also would be a problem for someone when an elite is super-cloaked and out of the way.

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  126. Okay Bo schitt I agree to your opinion but the fact that most of the people who commented here are highly at my agreement Halo 3 was a good game at first before the the 7-11 yr olds start coming on to ruin peoples emotions in the real world halo does have a forge option but only to change maps that have already been made.

    Although Valve has a way of letting players create custom game maps,modes,modifications,etc.

    Comparing Bungie's halo series Valve overall has better reputation and only 32% of kids in it's online play of any game plus,the kids there aren't as bad as the ones that play halo most of them aren't very annoying,most of the teens/adults interact with them in a non-negative way.

    But this is my opinion I am nor right or wrong, people will also have the same opinions like mine, I won't correct you if you like halo or not but you can't correct this nor change my mind.

    I think the Half-Life series was outstanding since it was customizable and just excellent in anything but though, I have quit playing halo due to the hypocrites who play there to annoy the living hell out of me every single match complaining about so-called "Ownage" or "R4p3d" but i did love to express this opinion here have a nice day.

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  127. Sorry said a few mistakes i can't edit them. :/

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  128. u r right. halo 1 was harder than others i belive GEARS OF WAR is 100 times better

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  129. I'm too lazy to read all of the comments so forgive me if someone's already said this. First of all, how is Master Chief any different from Gordon Freeman in that Master Chief seldomly speaks, and Freeman doesn't, the hero doesn't need personality. Also, the HALO series is a first-person shooter, what do you do in it, play in first-person and shoot. The point is that I never really got into Half-Life 1 because I felt like it wasn't as much a first-person shooter and more of a puzzle game. In "Freeman's Mind" you'll see Gordon have to spend fifteen minutes to get across a bridge, that's not a shooter, it's a puzzle. Also, the health system was made based on the character's design, having that weird armor name I forgot. Besides in my opinion I prefer the regeneration over the fact that you have to pick up health in HALO 3: ODST, because you end up spending ten minutes looking for health. And in both the Half-Life games you end up spending a lot of time searching for health and ammo. Also, contrary to what you say about the weapon system in HALO I think that limiting you to 2 weapons makes the game more of a challenge in that you have to choose which weapons you need for which combat scenarios. Then there's also the fact that in Half-Life you are forced to play rather close to the storyline where in HALO you have a little more free roam ability. By the way, in Half-Life 2: Episode 1 what's the deal with the vortigaunts stopping the G-man but then later on in Episode 2 the vortigaunts are distracted by healing Alyx but why is it that when they heal Alyx then the G-Man finds Gordon, why couldn't he meet Gordon while the vortigaunts were fighting the antilions? Anyways, the campaigns in both games get old after you play them a few times, so really after you've played every game a few times it gets boring. In the realm of the HALO multiplayer, versus other multiplayer games, as far as I know hardly anyone plays Half-Life Deathmatch. Then you've got the fact that in Counter-Strike the game gets pretty repetitive. As for little kids playing HALO I've had to deal with 8-year olds on Counter-Strike and it happens no matter what online game you play. As for HALO being too easy, that's why they made the Legendary setting and the skull option. Besides, Half-Life is easy once you know what to do. Listen in my opinion both games are awesome and are some of the best FPSes out there. Also, how is HALO bad when we have received "Arby n the Chief" from it. I say bravo to both Valve and Bungie for making games that excellent machinima is made from. If you want challenging play "Cock of Doody 4: Modern Gayfuckstupid." Games always end up unbalanced no matter what because someone always has more experience and does better.

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  130. So basically what I'm trying to say is that everyone should stop playing Fps games and switch to RTS ftw. I've always been more of an RTS-gamer but I like the FPS too. HALO in my opinion is a great game and also, can millions of gamers be wrong? Besides why not about a really bad FPS, G-mod. I swear I've played that game for weeks and I still haven't beaten the single-player campaign, and I've tried every map. Plus I'll admit HALO is easy on easy, and so is just about every game on easy, and yes I play on easy and do you know why? Because video games are supposed to be stress relievers, and to be honest having to develop complex strategies to overcome obstacles is a little too stressful for a stress reliever for me. Anyways, why don't they make another Super Smash Brothers but put Master Chief and Gordon Freeman in it. Anyways, one last thing, the only way to settle this once and for all HALO and alf-Life fans is this! Write to Bungie, Microsoft and Valve petition them for a game where the characters of HALO clash against the characters of Half-Life, then after a year of finding the most skilled HALO player and then the most skilled Half-Life player, Have them meet online for one last battle, Master Chief versus Gordon Freeman. Master Chief ability to regenerate against Freeman's ability to hold all the weapons he gets. The Battle Royale will begin and end on December 21st, 2012 and the world can end knowing who's better, Master Chief and HALO or Gordon Freeman and Half-Life.

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  131. Yeah to olin above me. Video games should be stress relievers and not something that makes you want to destroy your computer. But even so, everyone has a different taste. Half-Life is made of puzzles and Halo is made of swarms of enemies that you need to blow through. In my opinion, Garry's Mod is the best game ever. Period. End of discussion... except for my reasons. In G-Mod, you CAN do ANYTHING! Most, if not all, FPS's are all about destruction, where as in G-Mod, you have a choice: construct awesome things or destroy AI... or other players... or all of the above! For myself, I want a game that combines everything in pop culture together so you can easily create your own senarios or even games themselves. That game's precursor IS G-Mod. But until then, settle for what you enjoy, and don't argue with people which game is better, because it's all about opinion.


    (Half-Life is still better =D)

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  132. Why do you guys bitch about the regeneration system anyways, I like it, it's a pain in the ass looking for health and takes away from the story.

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  133. If you ask me, the only developers of the FPS genre that has it right is the almighty Valve and the FPS masters of id. Both are superb developers but are out casted by OMFG BUNGIE IS THE BEST GAME MAKER OMFG HALO REACH!!!!!!!111

    I must say Halo Reach was an improvement, but nowere near HL2 or Quake!

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  134. Dear God People, there is like 100 ranting comments about friggin' Halo.

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  135. dude... i am a halo fan. fuck off this series. You guys dont have to fucking encourage us to not like halo. I love it and im proud of it. I ALSO love Valve Games and Activision, EA, and others. Dude, for me the only thing that sucks about halo is the annoying ass kids that play it.

    I agree with you, calvin_olinw.

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  136. I played the Halo series up to Halo Wars.. I liked it. Why? Because I didn't know of VALVe at that point. A friend shows me The Orange Box, and a new gaming era enters my life! Sure, Halo Reach looks new and better than all Halo games, but the Gameplay won't change. no matter how hard you try to be GOOD at a Halo game, your still not better than the new players. At least in VALVe games your health doesn't regenerate on its own. Hell, Even Call of Duty is getting old! Same predictable story endings. In Half Life 2, I had no idea what was going to happen to Alyx or Barney, and in Halo, you could Tell it would be the happy ending everyone wanted. I think Bungie deserves an amazing "Fuck you."
    Long live VALVe.

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  137. the halo games and mechanics are extremely polarizing, if you think anyone say they can make a unbiased opinion of halo has better chance of surviving skydiving without a parachute

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  138. im actually somewhat a fan of halo, but i see where your right:
    master chief isnt a badass, people think he is because hes faceless and has a deep voice.
    the health system is actually easy, i have to admit... (no more to say about that)
    and as far as the "made for idiots" go, thats pretty true... but theres idiots in all games, arent there?
    i dont talk about halo much unless its a funny thing like "omg i threw a spike grenade at a brute, and it landed in his crotch, and he yanked on it! (+50 jerk-off reference)" and even then i dont really mention it more then once to ONE person.
    i love alot of games, and the first time i picked up half-life, i was kinda confused, but i quickly re-adjusted to it.
    but honestly, i perfer portal :D
    alsooooooooooooo i only play first-person-shooters because they HAVE NO REALISM.. which is good, because i dont want to get shot and go to the hospital for like a year, so if i wanted realism out of a first person shooter, id join the fuckin army. which actually might be why i like halo, because its sci-fi-y and stufz. its not realistic in the least, and thats the way i like it
    keep up the good work man.

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  139. ah yes, and i like halo wars because it reminded me of starcraft, which i used to play as a kid.

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  140. Even though I'm a bit of a halo fanboy, I agree with you. Valve makes the best shooters. Ever. Period. In every respect. Sorry Bungie.

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  141. Amen, old chap.

    Good show, good show. I couldn't have said it any better myself.

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  142. I guess halo fans can now understand why gmod kicks ass. F**K X_box!!!!!

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  143. Tell me if another game company can make a character that never talks, and all you see are the hands, for 4 games, And still make him the most popular game character for a decade. Honestly. I was hoping soap would end up like that but no. they had to make him talk. All hail Gordan Freeman!!!

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  144. I've played all of the Halo series - and I say Halo Custom Edition was the best of all 4 of them.
    It was so much more then a "ZOMG I NO SCOPED UUUU" kind of game.
    Almost all of the the servers were intense, deep thought out custom map servers with near endless possibilities with the amount of material that could be coded into the map - Which was soon replaced with Garry's Mod.

    I my opinion Halo Custom Edtion was like the Garry's Mod before Garry had even starting making it; meaning it's the ONLY good Halo out there. I DESPISE the other Halo games, mainly becuase the Master "Jackass" Chief displays the almost exact emotions of Keanu Reeves (No offense) and how he NEVER dies. In fact he's NEVER injured at all.

    Das Bo you left out the only good Halo game in your rant - And I thank you for that.

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  145. Tell me if another game company can make a character that never talks, and all you see are the hands, for 4 games, And still make him the most popular game character for a decade.
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  146. I like to play halo... but I don't think its the best game in the world... in fact my favorite game for now is Wet, it has a personality for a game and has an arcade feel that I like.

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  147. i have always wanted to say that halo sucks but ALL of my friends will shun me and say that i dont like it cause i suck at it.

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  148. You realize how little skill Half-Life 2 takes, don't you? There were very few genuinly challenging parts of that game.

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  149. The Halo games are popular because of mostly the multiplayer. The multiplayer in these games were, in my opinion, the best of the xbox console. When Halo 3 came out with forge and all the other options it really brought the community together to play some really fun competitive along with casual games. You prefer the VALVe shooters and that is fine, but others do choose Halo, GoW, or Cod. It isn't a matter of who's is better, but which one you've come to love, respect, and enjoy the most throughout your experience. I love all of Valve's games, i love the Halo franchise, I love the Call of Duty franchise. They all have there cool own way of redefining the first person shooter experience. None are better, than the other. We will just find the things that we will love most to be shining from one game, but lacking in the other.

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  150. Oh, yeah! I hate Halo too! Half-Life is better.

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  152. Why can't we all agree that Halo, L4D, Half Life, Counter Strike ect are all great games?? It's rediculous how people fight over which game they think is better. They're all great in their own ways. Grow up people.

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  153. Halo multiplayer: I have granades therefore I am god.
    Counterstrike: I have the AWP therefore I am beyond god.
    TF2: Why are Counterstrike players and Halo players morons?

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  154. Where is the Blog This button when you need it?

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  155. Half-Life 2.
    Everyone, especially DasBoschitt, knows what that is!
    THAT IS A SHOOTER WORTH PLAYING. PERIOD.

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  156. Valve games are good and Bungie games are too! I love Hl,Hl2 Halo 1-2-3 Halo Reach.I love these games and play everyday very hard because i lpove it!

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  158. It just upsets me that people just can't like playing games to play games. Everything is just so competitive now. Halo is fun and Valve games are fun. So excuse me when I say, OH WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS!?

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  159. All are great. I grew up on Halo, and I played through the campaigns for Halo:CE and Halo 3 the other day for the first time in a year, and had an absolute blast! So many memories flooding back of happy times with my mates. Admittedly, online multiplayer is insufferable, and I can only stand so much of it, mainly down to the people who populate the internet rather than the actual multiplayer format itself. I love the Valve games too, although they have only really grown on me recently. Particular praise goes to HL2, TF2 and Portal, all fantastic. IMO, Valve games (HL2 in particular) are leading games in technological development for sure, and there are other games from other developers that have their own envelope-pushing accolades. Halo doesn't necessarily qualify for any of these areas, granted, but one thing I can unashamedly and confidently say Halo is king of is Soundtrack. The Halo OSTs are the only game OSTs that I can sit down, listen too IN IT'S ENTIRETY and enjoy (followed closely by Gears of War 2, and possibly the CoD games (ONLY SEGMENTS OF EACH THOUGH). Sorry Valve, but that's one area where you can't compete with Halo.

    All in all, Bungie, Valve, Infinity Ward, Epic, whatever. I have enjoyed games from many developers, including those above, and will do so for many years to come I am sure! :)

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  162. Jees... then you're not going to like Call of Duty...

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  163. Do you see any kind of HALO chanpionships? NO!
    Why? 1.Too Damn Easy.
    2.Bad graphics and physics engine
    3.Because you can only see TRUE shooters: Valve's Shooters.

    Therefore, Halo Sucks, and Valve's Shooters are amasing.

    I've played Halo 1 and 2, and I've never felt anything. Half-Life, in other way, gives you some kind of pleasure when you actually shoot a NPC.

    LEARN THE LESSON MICROSOFT STUDIOS!

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  164. PEOPLE it is a game! It is made for entertainment! If you like it PLAY IT!!! If you don't then leave it ALONE...I think i made my point :)

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  165. I can't say I agree with you. I've played Counter Strike and it seems that there is only one game type per map, includes overpowered weapons and perhaps the worst thing: death takes a very heavy toll. Also the maps are very flat, very little vertical strength. Where's free for all and TDM and all the good stuff? Last but not least, it seems that the online community has slowly ate away at itself for years. I see camping, grenade spam and aimbotting. It's funny that I don't see these kind of things in Halo Reach. Well, maybe the magnum is overpowered, but it has a small clip, so it balances out. Old games just punish you too much for dying. New games have been designed to be more fun and less frustrating.

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  166. @karlox I have to disagree with you there. Halo is not easy. If you want to see easy, play Call of Duty. And plus, the graphics really aren't bad. It's much more difficult to draw and animate objects that don't exist in real-life. Games like CoD, Medal of Honor, etc. can easily animate a gun or person that already exists. I also find some of Valve's games to be extremely repetitive such as Left 4 Dead. Halo actually has a good storyline unlike a lot of Valve games. And have you ever heard of Valve championships? I sure haven't.

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  167. I think halo was a great game, but you are right the health system in halo 2 and 3 was stupid. I am glad they changed it for reach. Also, valve games are no where close to being the best shooters. The call of duty series are especially Modern Warfare.

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  168. Andrew117 If you think COD is easy you must never play on anything but easy or have never played hardcore mode. and it is easier to draw and animate thinks that don"t exist because you don't have anything to compare it to to say it looks fake. Games like COD have a lot of details that have to be perfected because someone can look at the real gun and point out different errors in there design

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  169. Karlox: yes there are halo championships and how about trying the more recent games such as halo 3, ODST, and Reach they are the best. Rooster teeth has there own company that makes its money because Halo is so popular. Look at a Guinness book or world records. Halo was no. 1 game series, COD was no. 2. I did not see any valve games on the list above 50. Microsoft did take a hint after there disaster with Halo Wars. Also, the halo AI's are some of the best. They don't Have the same three attacks, they act like actual players

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  170. Almost everyone here is a valve fanboy. Yes they make good games but half life was a horrible series. the storyline make no sences and it was too easy. try playing something else ANYTHING other than half life and TF2. what i love about Halo is the diversity. you can create your own maps and game types. It is like Gmod on steroids. If you play reach and have seen forge world you know what I am talking about.

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  171. From what I have experienced in both series (Halo and Half-Life) I will say that Halo is one of those games (Like battlefield 2) in which the absurdity of the physics (to an extent)is what makes it so fun. Halo 2 and 3 weren't the greatest but ODST's was pretty good. I don't play the multi-player as I don't have live. I do like not having 20 different weapons in your inventory it makes you think "ok what weapons will I need? Sniper's rifle, rocket launcher, assault rifle..." That makes you think a bit about what you are doing. Also makes it easier and harder at the same time. /halo rant

    The thing I like about Half-Life is that you need to really THINK about how to figure something out. You can't just run through like you can in Halo. Annoyingly you have about 20 weapons and it takes awhile to switch between them. The guns are REALLY well done though. Not much else to say on the subject of Half-Life. Decent characters (something Halo somewhat lacked IMO) very well done story. /Half-Life rant

    I have reason for liking both games. I like Halo 1 because of Halo Custom Edition you can create you own campaign which is IMMENSE fun. The tools are MUCH simpler (but at times more annoying) then those used for Half-Life's SDK's. Also annoying that you can't create you own weapons in Half-Life.

    This is all coming from someone who play's even amounts of VALVe Games and HaloCE.

    I do not like ANY GAME with voice chat as all those annoying little BRATS get on and mic spam.

    This is all coming form the point of view of a game modifier.

    Both game's (Halo and Half-Life) have Pro's and Con's and in my eye's are even.

    Call of Duty on the other hand..........

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    1. I liked the first Halo. After that the community collapsed like Tribes. Now the mature players moved back to the first game (or in Tribes's case, Tribes 2 with the TribesNext mod) while all the kids with annoying mic spam moved to the newer games. Although Tribes: Ascend has an awesome community, as all the kids think it's a Halo rip-off and won't play it.

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  172. I have seen many comments in this section that show agreement with Mr. Schitt.I have to admit that I am among these people ,too, but I should aslo add that Half-Life is nothing new to FPS gaming either.I think most of the adult FPS gamers remember Quake and it's sequels or even Wolfenstein 3D...

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  173. You got the valid reasons,but why hate Halo so much?Eventually,i love Valve games,and i will love em.But,pointing on Halo is kind of....making things wrong here.I eventually love both companies(Valve and Bungie).I play CS:S and Halo 3.But i don't think the Health System is that easy for you.Have you tried playing Legendary?It is really hard,and the Health System takes way more time to recharge.You need to try playing it on Legendary,then come back and complain.And no,i am not a stupid 5 year old kid on Xbox Live.I still love Halo AND Valve.About Master Chief...well i have to agree with this one.He is not such a badass hero,and he has a boring story as a child.About the guns being boring.Have you EVER tried to think how hard is to choose either a Sniper or a Brute Shot,when you already have a Battle Rifle?The guns ain't boring.Every gun has it's own skill.You didn't even tried to win a game with an Assault Rifle and a Pisol on the other hand.It is hard.And,the thing i hate the MOST out of Halo is......THE MICROPHONE CHAT!I hate those stupid 5 year old brats on their Microphones.I can't even hear myself think.I don't think why you should point towards Halo that much.As i sed,i love BOTH compaines and the games they do.I am not a big Halo Fanboy,but i like the Game Story and Multiplayer Customisation.Try playing the game fully,and take a little look over the game,then complain.

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  174. I myself am a all around gamer meaning if it looks fun ill play it anything from puzzle games to hardcore shooters there all fun. Halo was my favorite game as a child ( yes child ) but as the series progressed I found myself liking it less and less, now yes I will play an occasional game of halo with my friends but just to Fuck around and play the silly infection types that kill time but now ill play garrys mod or the occasional rpg on xbox but just a fact the halo series should just stop halo 1 was fun halo 2..meh halo 3 and above just plain outrages its like they will do whatever they can to make money which in my eyes is kind of sick because they now 10 year olds will continue to buy it for its easy gameplay and the ability to act like a fucking adult when really there like 7 finally the halo franchise was ok but I think by this time everyone is just sick of it, so make this a messege to bungie or 343 or whatever the Fuck it is now, JUST STOP, thank you, thank you I will be here all week goodnight!

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  175. Seems only a few people in the comments are actually gonna make legitimate points about halo. They are both good games and they both have ups and downs. A lot of the 'bad points' about halo you guys have given can easily be applied to either game, it just depends on your personal interests. For goodness sake guys, stop mindlessly slamming good games just because you like another.

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  176. Hey you do know that halo makes one of the worlds greatest machinema besides Garry's mod and they brought back the old health system in halo reach (which looks different) and they made it look like the same as the first halo in combat evolved anniversary. And besides a lot of games have the same health system as halo 2 and 3. But my point is that don't call a game retarded that you don't like unless it COD (call of duty.)

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    1. Call of Duty has its own redeeming quailties... I just can't think of any that apply to the more recent games in the franchise. XD

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  177. I frankly accept how most of you give a valid reason to dislike the halo franchise, but frankly, not everybody says things like “as long as I have grenades I’m the best player.” or say "HALO3 MACHINIMA EZZ FUNI BCUZ ET HALO3 OLO", frankly, these are ALL stereotypical sayings from what people who are based fans of a different type of games have in mind for people whom play and have likes for different games, in this case, Valve games. In my opinion, i LOVE Valve shooters and most of their games in general, but to be honest, ive played Halo since the first game, ive been at it up to date with halo reach and havent had a chance to try Halo Anniversary, and to tell you guys the truth, not everyone acts the way you guys describe them, most of the people who act like that are the people who have bearelly just have gotten a game console and act in accordance to what the other newbies as such have told them or take a vague misinterpretation of what a gaming veteran has told them about socializing online, and frankly, you see more of those people roaming around in games such as CoD, rather than games like the Halo series. I am a Halo fan boy, but i still have open ideas about other games and i have the will to hear other peoples ideas about the games they like or hate, including about halo itself, but the part i think of annoying is to hear people who just talk trash about a game who has more to offer than just the simple things you guys seem to notice such as the health system or the FEW but memorable newbies, which in reality are, as i said before, not so common and are actually quite friendly if you stop complaining about their voices or about their gaming immaturity, something we ALL went through when we began to play online, except to most of these kids, their mind hasn't accommodated to what socializing online is. And the last ting i have to say is that Halo actually has quite a lot to offer than just plain killing and winning as most people look for in a game. Halo can be played in many different ways, and with their addition of custom gaming and forge, it is possible to fix a game to even play a FUN game without even having to kill one person, and about it's storyline, it is actually quite interesting if you stop thinking so much on similarities or preferences to other games, something most gamers should try considering from time to time.

    tl;dr: this is just my opinion, and to be truthful,I think you guys should give a try to not just Halo, but other games, and try to seek fun without sticking to the linear storylines or the "Just kill and win" ideas, but its just my idea, everyone has different opinions do...

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    1. Not all Valve games are linear, my Steam library is massive, and I loved the first Deus Ex (where there is a near infinite number of ways to finish missions. On the other hand, I hate Halo (except Halo 1), think Call of Duty is crap, and as long as I try to get along with noobs they still don't seem to change. So you can see it's possible to accommodate your above points and still have the same mindset, remember that when you think that everyone posting acts the same way.

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  178. Guise! Seriously, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY! I liked Halo 1, And thought Halo 3 was a bag of shit. But just about all Valve games are better than them all! ALL CoD games after CoD4 = DLC on a disc, BF3 I find really fun mainly because of vehicles. Can't wait for my new PC so I can play Crysis on full graphics!

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  179. I just can't believe that, after 12 years, people still think Tribes ripped off of Halo. At least that's better than all the kids that were 2 when Tribes came out thinking the Tribes: Ascend is the first game in the series. "OH MY GOD THERE'S LASERS AND JET PACKS IT'S HALO."

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    1. I agree with you. I've been playing Tribes since the beginning and to be honest, it still has the best game play of all the series. I ran several servers for many years and still host a few till this day.

      It really pisses me off when I hear that, I have heard it before. As for Ascend.... It's not a fucking facebook game. People don't want to play for a year to earn a gun you could buy for $2 (dramatized)That is not the way tribes is. Tribes was a modding machine that didn't require downloading thousands of things. People had to use existing models put together in different locations and such just to make the image of a different weapon.

      Halo is the reason FPS games have got shitty. I won't only say Halo but the moron movement changed multi-player forever. Nothing but punk ass morons. I learned programming through quake 1-2 and Tribes1. We need to take this shit back!

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  180. Half Life was so much better for various of reasons. Half Life 2 had physics and great weapon systems, light dynamic, cinematic and challenge. Half Life 2 also had alot of 3rd party content, like mods and skins. Skins were so easy to download and make, and the same with mods. With the right skill and patience, you could create your own game, basically. C:SS was also made by the Source engine, by some modders that were assigned by valve. Portal and Team Fortress and 2 were included with Episode 2 that were one of the best half life games in the series, just a year after episode one! I personally think that VALVe is the best game company ever.

    I didnt enjoy Halo as much as i did with other games. Halo just seemed to much enemies, and so many reppetive challenges. The campaign were really challenging, but the game got more reppetive, and when you did a mission, it all seemed exhausted the half of the way through the game. Not like you want more, but you dont want to keep playing end. Its more different with Half Life. You want to keep playing to the end of the chapter. In half life, there were so many new enviroments and challenges, that come so natural ranking up.

    The multiplayer for Halo were a big mess. When you spawned, you got killed 5 secs after. And people with rocket launchers and snipers, sticky grenades is just the most overpowered people ever.

    At least thats my opinion.

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  181. Hey this is all your opinions. No one can change it. But neither can you all change mine.
    I like halo. I'm easy to please. And I consider the Halo series a good use of video games. Yes, they didn't change much, but it still grabs attention and spawned books and fan-fictions more than everyone could probably care to count. Think about that before you all start shouting at me and calling me gay, stupid and a complete dumbass who doesn't know shit about games and whats supposed to be in them.

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  182. i dont get it in this blog it seems there is no facts and just opinions passed of as facts alot of you and dasboschiitsaid that halo did stuff other shooters have already done maybe, maybe... but did any other shooter do it all in one game and on a console! think people this is 2001 were the only succesfull shooter on a console so far has been goldeneye and perfect dark and that was on the n64 for a non pc shooter to do well in a time were a fps on a console was unheard of you have to give it respect for that.. onto the game sucks aspect. from what i have read in this blog most of it comes from the campaign which boils down to the gameplay is broken and to easy well im sure normal is way harder thatn easy but legendary..thats a whole other story as for the regenarating health we will get to that in a minute..but multiplayer i hear 1 huge thing aside from "broken gameplay" what i hear is the community ruins it specifically the 7 year olds that scream. im sorry but if you think this ruins halo then every single multiplayer game on the face of this planet must SUCK for you because those kids are every were you could blame 100 different games for causing that another thing i have to say about the "community sucks" is if you say the community sucks then you havent looked at anything because the community is full of talented people that make art ingame host community events even make profitable FRANCHISES out of halo (im talking about rvb) thats not even the begining halo has a strong community and that is a fact alright whats next oh yes this warped thing of halo being to real ok WTF really? halo realistic? i dont even know what to say to that... next up halo ruin the shooter genre and every game is better than it especially everything made by valve..... ok so if every game is ruined because it copies halos "god awful" formula then why isnt 99.99999 % of the shooter genre halo clones? remember halo 1 came out in 2001 and that was way before the shooter genre exploded so why arnt all shooters halo clones? because developers are smart enogh to see what halo and other games do right but not COPY them they take those ideas made by other games and improve on them. next half life is better than halo. that is entirely to opinion but people exspecially say its health system is better and i must say MY GOD NO! its the more broken of the 2 if halos regenarationg health makes it to easy then health packs makes it way to hard it allos 2 guys to take your health down and instead of killling you leaves you with 2 health and a massive wave of enimies ahead and no you get no healthpacks.
    next thing is charecters and story for carecters you all say master chiefs personallity is dumb well what personality is gordan freeman? excactly. and the story? on a zoomed out level they are the same ALIENS WANT YOU DEAD! also you are a person of great importance. pretty simalar if yo look at it that way. in the end or were im ending this because it is 5:00 and i can see the sun rising, i respect your opinions no matter whose side you are but please do no just through accuzations out there without facts or any form of proof also dont pass of opinions as reasons one thing is better then another.
    have a good night or should i say morning?

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  183. dasboschitt was almost 4 years younger at the time. I've always love halo. I've always loved any game.

    BUMP

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  184. All I can say is.. Borderlands!! Das Bo Schitt talks about carrying 50 oversized lightning shooting guns, Yep, borderlands has got it. Have 1200HP and 900 shield capacity, regenerating ammo, tons of lootfests, it's amazing I've preordered borderlands 2, maybe Bo Schitt will like it?

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  185. Not to mention the weapon generation is truly spectacular, how about a Rocket Launcher with a revolving cylinder magazine that spits acid? Or fire? A glock 18 with a blade in the tip and a 40 round clip?

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  186. Hi DASBOSCHITT,

    I havent tried playing or heard of Halo before but thanks for explaining what's bad about it. Ciao!

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  187. Lol, made me laugh. While I am a die hard Halo fan and always will be, I agree with a lot of what you said here.

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  188. Dude, I used to think you were cool. You didn't give your opinion peacefully, you just stabbed this game in the face. I don't care what you think anymore. I'm going to unsubscribe if you make a vlog about Halo. Gods sake.

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  189. Old/dead as shit topic but what the hey.

    I've been replaying the first halo on Legendary on my PC for about a week now and the only thing I want to say is that the claim "the game takes no thought or skill to play" doesn't quite hold water on Legendary difficulty.

    I say this because there's, on average it seems, more than 5 enemies that will be aiming straight the player if they just charge into the open guns blazing, and when it only takes 6 bullets to completely destroy the player's shield (not counting a fully-charged plasma pistol shot), whoever's playing the game won't have much of a chance at surviving if they don't take things slowly and just mindlessly shoot whatever moves the second they see it.

    But if Bungie didn't plan the game this way (for instance, they designed the levels, AI, etc. around the normal difficulty level) than it really doesn't matter since they didn't intend the game to play out that way.

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  190. I personally enjoy the Halo games simply because the story leaves me wanting more.... and it's fun to turn a hardened Grunt into a running, squealing impromptu suicide bomber. (plasma grenades... :D)The health system in Halo was rather annoying, but at least i didn't die so much. The graphics are pretty neat, and the appearance of the plasma weapons sort of makes sense. (don't ask.)

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    1. Also, they say Halo revolutionized shooters because it demonstrated what shooters could do. Half-Life did the same thing for shooter-puzzlers, as did the later Portal games for 1st-person puzzle games.

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  191. Try Halo 3: ODST
    You are a normal, easily vulnerable marine, who is immediately in big trouble if he's spotted by a group of enemies. You even have a normal health system.
    IGN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIrBJ3vUJeM

    You can't call the game shit just because it's not your style. DasBoSchitt, I am disappoint.

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  192. In a way i agree with what your saying but in another way i dont. You see i was more less brought up to worship this game by my friends when i was younger sure i loved it 8 years ago but since the newest title "halo 4" i felt like it was lacking what i used to like about halo 3, 2 and CE. the worst thing was it wasn't lacking anything Becuase it was more less the same thing, go shoot this, go blow up this, go activate dormant forerunner technology that could wipe out the universe but chief saves it again. I think that developers in many games have a similar way of thinking, add more guns, add more vehicles, make a few new maps and do some remakes and thats us a perfectly new game! (Most company's do at least a decent job though there hard work) most people will compair games to other great games like the valve games or bethesdas games. But no one can make a accurate review on any game without there personal feeling getting in the way so we do it with large groups of people that have valid reasons to like/dislike the game. As much as i agree with your post some part of me is going to disagree and say how halo can be a great game if you have the right mind for it.

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  193. So everybody here is hating on Halo. People can like what they can like. And to the comment up near the top, Halo was the best selling game for the next couple of years. Half-Life was unrecognized, Multiplayer in both Half-Life games are usually unplayed, due to Call of Duty and Halo, and it's designed to be a strictly PC-based game series. Thus, it's biggest flaw. So don't hate on games you haven't played. Only G-Mod and TF2 are strictly multiplayer, too. I don't see Halo being strictly multiplayer. So guys, grow up. Every series has it's positives and it's negatives, so be quiet. End of story.

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